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Dan Walker admits he still wonders whether he could have stopped Gary Speed's death, nine years after the Welshman died.
The then-Wales boss died in 2011 at the age of 42, but just hours before had appeared on BBC's Football Focus, presented by Walker, alongside former Leeds team-mate Gary McAllister.
Speed left behind wife Louise and two sons and Walker remains haunted thinking about whether he could've said anything that would've changed his actions.
The now BBC Breakfast presenter said Speed's death still "eats him up" and he still recalls "every word" they said.
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And Walker still thinkings about whether he missed any hints on that morning.
Speaking on the Headliners podcast he said: "Could I have said something to him that day? "Now, was I a good enough friend to him, could I have spotted something?
"And I've been through every conversation, virtually every word, I can remember verbatim what we spoke about on that Saturday.
"The final thing he said to me was, he was talking in detail about all the games that Wales had coming up and what tactics he was going to play in those tournament qualifiers.
Dan Walker often thinks about if he could've done anything differently
(Image: BBC/Pete Dadds)
"And he spoke about his children and he asked me about my children, which is what he always did, he always asked people about what was going on in your life, he was interested in other people.
"And I've been through every word that he said that day and the same with Gary McAllister and we've wondered as friends could we have done something or was there something we could have seen or something we could have predicted.
"And it does, it eats you up a bit.
"But I feel far more concerned for his two boys and I feel so happy that, they're never going to be in a great place because they've lost their dad, but they're in a really positive place and they are looking forward to living their lives to the full."
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